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Hi bloggers
We're looking for people who have quit smoking with the help of Quitline to take part in our new advertising campaign.
We're looking for all different kinds of people. Shooting will take place in early March in the Wellington region so it would be ideal (but not essential!) if you were living in the area.
To register your interest, please email Sarah Woods: sarahw@quit.org.nz
It would be very helpful if you could include some information about yourself and your quitting journey.
Many thanks!
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Dentarthurdent6 October, 2010 Hey Poppy. My heart goes out to you, reading through your blogs you seem to have really struggled with your quit to date. But yet, you have managed to tough it out so far and you should be really proud of that.
Talk to your Doctor about the Zyban if it is making you sick. There is more than one antidepressant out there and it can sometimes take one or two attempts to find the right one for you. There's an article in the Quitline newsletters (Under the Media tab I think) that talks about a clear link between quitting and depression for some people, I found it interesting anyway.
I've attached a quote at the bottom I have found useful, I hope it helps you. For me this is all about taking the time each day to spend a couple of minutes thinking about some positives which quitting smoking has given me. I breath easier when climbing the stairs, I spend more time with my kids and grandkids, I have more money, I look and feel healthier, When I take a breath I can smell the flowers and there is no rattle in my chest, that sort of thing. It helped me with my mind set towards quitting.
I honestly wish I could tell you right now to just do this "One thing" and it will all be easier but I can't I'm afraid, I don't think there is a "One thing". You have come too far to throw it away now though.
Kia Kaha
When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us
Author: Helen Keller
1Lyn16 October, 2010 Hi Poppy. You have done so well to reach 75 days and now theres a big celebration just around the corner when you reach three numbers. Hang in there and enjoy the beautiful Marlborough Sounds.
rubytuesday6 October, 2010 After 75days the nicotine is long out of your body so you are left with the habit now.. the head trip. I would want a smoke if i was on holiday with my parents...
pukeko6 October, 2010 Hi poppy ...you are ok...you can so do this...I have just been to doc...yep those stress moments...mother with kids ...etc...found out I am menopaused maxed out ...no wonder wtf hahahahahaha go back to your doc & get some blood tests etc...streess does terrible things ...& I so know how it feels...hahahaha we can do this as a team.....watching your back....that 100 days is there ...just around the corner .....xx
Tiwi6 October, 2010 Hey Pops, you lucky thing, I'd love to be somewhere remote like that, mate, live it up.
I imagine the sunrises are spectacular as are the sunsets.
I saw the sunrise last Saturday accompanied by close buddies and a bottle of tequila, was just amazing wrapped in our blankets and beanies watching it come up over the harbour.
Made me appreciate every breath I take
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natz10871 October, 2010 70 days is such a good effort though! but i understand where you are coming from! dont give in to it :) why not try for another 70 days just to say that you can! :)
minty fresh1 October, 2010 You're right ..... you're over it.....you're over the worst part of the quitting and heading into the home stretch. The initial nicotine cravings and urges will have gone and you'll be learning to deal with the habit side of quitting.......stick with it Poppy as you'll see there is so much more to you than you realise at the moment. You're stronger than you think. ♥
freedive1 October, 2010 70 days! There is no way there are any cravings as nicotine would have left your body weeks ago. It is a mental thing and you have beaten it! Just get on with life as a non smoker and celebrate your triumph!
freedive1 October, 2010 I meant that in a congratulatory nice way :)
Rudy1 October, 2010 70 days of Hell huh....possibly! But congratulations on your 70 days anyway.
One of the biggest hurdles that get in our way when we decide to give up smoking is 'WILL POWER.' Something that you already have otherwise you wouldn't have made it to 70 days. You only want another one because this is what you THINK you need. Stay strong because you can do it and you HAVE been doing it.
It will get easier...you'll see!!!
pukeko1 October, 2010 POPPY!!!! Great to see you...YEP I CAN SOOOO relate to your emotions ...yep!!!....but guess what ....I have jumped another step...took ages...but I can honestly tell you ..(I think our journeys are quite similar emotion wise)...THERE IS LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL>..I cannot believe it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I carry my e smoke with me only if in a drinking situation & smokers are there (only coz now I do not want to slip over hahahahaha...)...maybe you could try that ..you can buy it online or at new world.....saved me in those awkward moments...the comfort one hahahahaha....YOU ARE DOING SO BLIMMIN DAMN WELL POPPY>>>>>Onward & Upward ....have you bought yourself a treat ? YOU CAN DO THIS !!XX
Poppy1 October, 2010 Im sick, have been spewing!!!
Dont know if it the zyban or stress!!!!!
Trying to do an assessment...arg.....brain not working....
Mr 12(stepson) hates me and never wants to come home, he staying with his gran for holidays....he been in my care for 9 years..
If im this stressed out doing a assessment fark i hate to fink how i will go in my exam...
pukeko1 October, 2010 OH POPPY (you not pregnant by any chance?) hahaha wtf...these stepkids sometimes need a good kick where that sun never ever shines!!! Your partner needs to support you poppy...you count....no he is just being a normal tweeny..but can hit you where it really hits....coz he pulls that good old trick ...I hate you...your not my mother.......just quietly as much as it hurts right now ..he will love you later...reason I can say this.... I come from one of those blended famillies...& know every trick in the book....a good line is for you.... you are so right I am not your mother ...but I am your friend & I still love you ....blog away poppy ..you can so do this ...Watching your back Poppy..xxx
minty fresh1 October, 2010 LMAO @ Freedive!!! It's hard to get the inflection from some blogs isn't it lol But I think we all knew that you were supporting Poppy. (I've done the same thing typed a response and thought "Heck, hope they don't take that the wrong way" - love it Freedive!! LMAO.)
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pukeko23 September, 2010 POPPY...stay on here blogging ...you can do this ...it is the habit ...nearly there for the crazy stuff to go away.....nearly there friend ...come on you can beat this ...go have a look at that site...thanks tobacco for killing my mum....breathe deeply...you can do this ...we are here for you poppy.xx
Shayla23 September, 2010 One puff then one smoke... and your back.
Do you really want that ashtray taste in your mouth? I don't think so... I would almost say that as soon as you posted that blog... you overcame your desire...? You know why you gave up... why go back and have to go through it all again when you have no choice?
Two months - that's fantastic!!! don't blow or suck it all away now. do some starjumps! Go crazy, have a mad walk in the freezing dark... have a hot bath... or just go outside and feel the clean air in your lungs... and while you are there... see all the beauty of this wonderful earth we live in... :)
Captinhook24 September, 2010 YOU CAN DO IT POPPY!!!!! I believe in you!!!! you can do this!!!! don't let that evil Nicodemon win!!!! hez nasty and doesnt care about anyone but himself!!! The zyban will kick in soon and you won't even notice that evil Nicodemon sitting on your back weighing you down! Keep up the good fight!!! we are all here for you!!!
cojy24 September, 2010 Poppy > I hope you made it threw the day This will happen less and less as time goes on, I know it is hard to not give in, This won't last much longer, You can do it.
COJY
Poppy24 September, 2010 thanks everyone you are all the greatest..
I made it through the day, dont feel as bad today..
Hands are shaky (Zyban side affect) but i can put up with that, as long as i dont start seeing things...
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Captinhook22 September, 2010 I hear ya sister! good on you for getting extra help and not giving in!!!! so funny hubby wanted to take them too - i thought you were the only crazy one? lmao!!! awesome stuff keep up the good fight!!!
Dentarthurdent22 September, 2010 Hey Poppy. We need all the help we can get with quitting at times and as I've mentioned before, sometimes it comes in pill form. Some of us do, some of us don't, our journies all differ slightly. The toughest step is recognising that you need help then asking I think, that takes strength. These are a short term thing and if it helps you get through this period then great.
Kia Kaha
mandykoo22 September, 2010 I'm feeling like getting some Zyban now. It sounds lovely .... LOL ... hehe
Glad you had a good sleep, Poppy, keep us updated on how it goes.
pukeko22 September, 2010 Good on you poppy...whatever makes that journey work for you!!! It is all about you....lol (husbands Hahahaha)....You can do it !!!!...I am off to a meditation night tonight...will let you know...Stick with it ...One Day At A Time.xx...you helped me so much with the st johns wort...thankyou...here for you poppy...here for you!!xx
Poppy22 September, 2010 Thanks everyone...loves you all.. :)
jaQz22 September, 2010 choyc poppy th@s massive congrats on ur tasteful tactics on pushing tha nicodemon out of ur life.....
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1Lyn122 September, 2010 Good luck with Zyban......know you can win. Zyban sounds more interesting than my lollipops
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Captinhook21 September, 2010 Stay strong Poppy!!! You are doing so well!!!! don't cave now you'll just end up kicking yourself!!!! good plan to go to the docs!!! hopefully he/she can help you. High five for being quit for 60 days!!! :)
pukeko21 September, 2010 Poppy ...you are doing an amazing job... you are an incredibly special lady....One Day At A Time poppy....it is for a very small part of you..one day at a time ...we have to learn to rewalk...before we can run...Here for you x
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just jag15 September, 2010 Hi Poppy, hang in there, it will pass. I remember thinking exactly the same but now I rarely think of cigarettes and when I do I don't miss them. I never thought I would be able to say that!! You really are over the worst so be strong a bit longer. As Mister mister says One Day at a Time.
horlicks15 September, 2010 Hi Poppy, remember you are not alone!!!! We are all going through the same thing at the moment and we can`t let the nicodemon win. I also have weak moments, I have got a killer withdrawal headache at the mo, so am tempted as well, but we have come this far and it will pass! It will get better,
We can do it!!!
Captinhook15 September, 2010 You can do it Poppy!!!! stay strong!!! don't let that nasty nicodemon win!!! its just messing with your head trying to push your buttons find your weakness etc tell it to fark off!!! you can do it!!!
MisterMister16 September, 2010 Poppy....... hang in there the journey is worth it. There will come a time when you will stop thinking about ciggies. When that will be no one can tell as each of us are different and we experience different sensations.
The cravings will fade..... I still get the odd craving now, but they are fewer and fewer.
You are not alone, the quit family are here for support. Hang on in there.
Well done on your achievements so far!
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horlicks11 September, 2010 Hi Poppy, congrats on reaching the 50 day mark, well done!!!
Not so good to hear that you are still finding it hard, I am at day 34 and are also struggling. It seemed to be easier at the beginning than it is now, so how does that figure??? But once again, well done and keep going!!!!
pukeko11 September, 2010 Poppy that is absolutely fantastic....so happy....50 DAYZ....awesome ..hope you are going to do something really special...for you !!
1Lyn111 September, 2010 Firstly congrats on reaching 50 days. Have a little celebration tonight and be proud of what you have achieved.
I know exactly where your coming from with your remark and have said the same thing many times.
mandykoo11 September, 2010 Well done, Poppy!!!!! You should be hugely proud of yourself. That is a fantastic milestone to have reached.
Poppy12 September, 2010 Thanks heaps everyone
steve7612 September, 2010 awesome poppy. always brightens my day when i read impressive stats. Keep it up as im sure your bad times are about to ease.
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minty fresh8 September, 2010 He's behaving like that because he's getting a reaction - and to him a reaction shows that you 'care' about your friend. Do your best to shrug it off and he'll eventually get over it. You did do the right thing in telling him - imagine how you would feel if you hadn't told him. Regardless whether you told him or not there may have been something else that he would be kicking off about! Controlling people usually find something to be picky about. Continue with your study and do your best Poppy. Hold your head up and know that you DID do the right thing.
Debz308 September, 2010 My BF is exactly the same, very very protective and it was very hard at the beginning of our relationship thats for sure as I have always had sooo many male friends through racing cars etc etc. But my BF is a painter and he although never tells me, he says the stuff that comes out of Builders and contractors mouth's about women...he said that females would be disgusted if they heard that stuff in the yard...I also had to start putting myself into his shoes and how I would feel if he had 100 female friends on facebook and on his phone texting them and going out to the movies with them etc...I would be extremely jealous I know it, so I backed off from my male friends (they understood) to keep the peace at home :) hehe we actually have a much better relationship now than we did before.
pukeko8 September, 2010 Men wtf.....damned if you do damned if you don't ...well done poppy for the honesty.You definitely hold you head high!!! Sounds like you still on track...even prouder...that St Johns wort definitely working.....xx
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lisa23 September, 2010 hey poppy i was just reading all your other blogs and you have mentioned your partner a few times, have you had the time to have a look back on them yourself?? if he is anything like my step dad was when he drank alot then he does love you i used to see this with my mum all the time he would no exactly how to get her down and he also had a huge trust issue with her i used to think "well shes not making it any easier on herself by keeping stuff from him" its called karma i believe our partner should be there to enhance our lives sure we will all have our rough patches but its the way we end the fight that matters not what the fight is actually about. have you considered bringing your friend around your husband so your husband can see the way you and your friend interact together? being the partner of someone with a drinking problem is hard very very hard most of the time you end up as the "punching bag" (not physically) for there deep seeded issues there comes a time were( please dont take this the rong way it is not meant as a put down) but if your not part of the solution your part of the problem and my mum was a part of the problem for years my step dad has only stoped drinking in the last 10 months and he is a completely diffrent man mum was scared that if he was sober he wouldnt love her the same she was rong i hope you get lots of good/helpfull feedback from other people as im not sure i have helped you with the actual question you asked thinking of you any way
Poppy3 September, 2010 Thanks heaps Lisa2
minty fresh3 September, 2010 Hey there Poppy - tell him. If you don't it'll look really suspicious WHEN he finds out. How long could you remember to keep that secret up?....What if you were seen by mutual friends?.....Would you want your husband to keep a secret from you? If you're being totally honest with your husband then he'll just have to deal with it. He should be grateful that you share things with him and care about how he feels.
Don't let him stop you going though....if you've decided with your friend that you're going, then do it. I say that because you really don't want your husband to control your every move and every choice.....marriage is a two way thing but you are still a person in your own right! Tell him to tag along too if he's so concerned (he probably wouldn't go though) but you'd be taking the slim risk that he might say yes - but by you asking him to tag along will be showing him that there is nothing in it other than friendship.
Married people can have friends too - friends who are not mutual friends.
Honesty is the best policy Poppy - go and enjoy the movie knowing that you've been upfront, honest and totally transparent. ☺
pukeko3 September, 2010 Poppy........maybe time to talk to hubby..if you love him tell him the truth..if you do not little truth..(you are meeting a friend).... if you really love him..ask him why...you cannot meet your friend..........tell him you want the truth...........does he not trust you..........if so why? put the ball in his court of why?...we all begin to ask questions as we go on our journey ...we have nothing to hide behind anymore except ourselves so actually we are making ourselves pretty damn special people...it is no longer a personal issue...we are starting to actually feel safe xx you do what is right in your heart poppy for you...we are here frend we are all here xx
Tiwi4 September, 2010 Hey Poppy, yes tell him. You have nothing to hide.
Invite him even. Let him know you're comfortable with him knowing and with him being there.
The moment you show hesitance creates motive for suspicion on hubbies behalf since he bares insecurities.
Suprise your hub by buying an extra ticket for him too and present all three at the right opportunity.
You'll know when that is.
Maybe involve a social melding with the two stags so they can get use to each others scent.
Get what I'm saying?
Men a simple creatures, that need constant petting and praise.
Without it, they'll feel like their dicks are shrinking before the whole world to see.
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mandykoo1 September, 2010 Wow, Poppy, I remember your first day on the site!! You have done SO well. Huge congratulations. I love the way you summed up all the goods things in your life ... made me realise I need to do the same about my life instead of concentrating on the things I haven't done - WELL DONE POPPY!!!!
pukeko1 September, 2010 OOOHHHH poppy poppy I am so happy for you...for all the goodness of you !!!
too right combined powers we are so pretty lucky!! xx
1Lyn12 September, 2010 So very well done. Another 10 days and we can celebrate your first 50 days
Greenslime2 September, 2010 Well done Poppy, aint it amazing how life just goes on. i didnt think it would without cigarettes, but turns out it does, and you are proof!
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minty fresh29 August, 2010 Well done Poppy!!! Great stats...looks like a lot of cigarettes when you see it like that doesn't it? Just imagine how much clearer your lungs are. Well done ☺
pukeko29 August, 2010 WoW poppy...you must feel so proud of yourself!!!!!
well done you!!
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fagoff26 August, 2010 That must be pretty hard remember your doing this for you eh , you could try Alanon there in phone book they support family members of someone who may have issues with alcohol,hang in there poppy
Poppy26 August, 2010 Thanks fagoff,
Bugger i thought the tears had stopped but here they go again
Tiwi26 August, 2010 oa babe, that aint good.
If he's tellin ya your grumpy, tell him he's ugly.
In the morning you'll be happy but he'll still be ugly.
sorry, just trying to cheer you up
Poppy26 August, 2010 Thanks Tiwi you make me laugh
Tiwi26 August, 2010 ...it's my calling in life, it's ma job, I'm a brofessional :))
pukeko27 August, 2010 Poppy, hope you ok.......thinking of you!!!xx pukeko
Smokefreedancer27 August, 2010 YEA, tell him he's ugly! Hahaha, that cracks me up. But seriously, thats not fair. I hope he becomes aware of his behaviour soon so that you two can really be happy non-smokers! Good luck Poppy X
lynal27 August, 2010 Hey Poppy, thinking of you, hope the morning has started off ok. Give Alanon a call today, they are there to support you as much as your man. Chin up and the fags wont help it will only make you truely grumpy.
minty fresh27 August, 2010 Hey Poppy - I'm with Lynal all the way here - Alanon - chip up - fags won't fix it. This is ALL about you - stuff him!! (I know you probably want to stuff him in a box sometimes) Let's focus on you...if he doesn't want to help and support you there are people (like us) out there who do.
Feeling 'out of sorts' is absolutely 100% NORMAL when you first quit.....you can get snappy, argumentative, judgmental and then crumble and end up in a heap of tears all within the space of 5 mins. This is just a phase and thankfully doesn't last for too long...having a drunken annoyance though may prolong that phase - but if you continue to focus on YOU then you will get through it. Just know that what you are doing by not smoking is the best thing that you've ever done for yourself and that everything worth having is worth working for. Keep your head up Poppy, paste a smile on your dial and buy an iPod!! That way you can listen to your own music and cut the ranting and raving of your drunken husband out when he starts - give him a mirror and tell him to talk to someone who cares - let's see how long it takes for him to get bored with himself! (My dad was a drunk and it's like listening to a broken record!!! ANNOYING!!) Have a great day Poppy. Onwards and upwards and remember that you are a star ☺
mandykoo27 August, 2010 Poppy, you are doing so well. The above posts by mintyfresh and everyone else put it so well. This is HIS problem, not yours. Phone Alanon today, Poppy!!! They are tremendous at supporting people in your position.
Poppy27 August, 2010 What is with everyone and friday saturday nights. Okay we have all given up smoking because it is bad for us, well whats with everyone being worried about drinking??? Im sorry I am very anti drinking and havent had a drink in 8 years. But alcohol is bad for you too!!!
Debz3027 August, 2010 I think because Drinking and smoking usually goes hand in hand. My friend at work, she is 23, she has been smoking full time since she was 16, first night she lit up, was the first night she was "Sloshed"...she said that she isnt sure she can give up smoking because it goes hand in hand with her drinking.....I gave up smoking for 7 years....started again last september out on the booze with mates...not even sure why I did that..still ask myself that question..
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Marie26 August, 2010 Picton girl myself.
just jag26 August, 2010 Mot for me Poppy
Debz3026 August, 2010 ChCh here :)
mandykoo26 August, 2010 Wellington girl here ...
abby9926 August, 2010 Riverton here!
pukeko26 August, 2010 How come you all live in the south........I think I need to leave my job...& hit the road.........hahahaha OHH sorry mandykoo ! hahaha ooooooooooohh to dream no working..........ooooooooohhhhhhhhhh maybe coz I can save by not smoking........
lynal27 August, 2010 Hamilton for me
mandykoo27 August, 2010 where about are you, Pukeko?
pukeko28 August, 2010 I am in Auckland....but out in the country..who would want to live in there.......hahahahaaha I call where I live paradise.
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Marie24 August, 2010 Don't know how long ago you posted your blogg, but I would be inclined to get up and go for a walk and waste half and hour or possiblely an hour and just 'burn it' by hard walking. I found this used to help me when I was studying. Hope it helps you.
polhigg24 August, 2010 poor poppy :( I understand totally how you feel as I am studying at the moment as well and it is HARD to concentrate on your study when you're in the midddle of giving up smoking. I agree with Marie, go for a walk. Don't be too hard on yourself. The lozenges help me when I'm trying to study! not sure if you're using NRT? when i'm struggling I will buy chocolate millk (high sugar, low G.I for sustained energy, clincially proven to be more effective then sportsdrinks), set up somewhere really quite, have lozenge or werthers originals and go for my life for an hour, beofre having wee breaks.
If you're really not getting anywhere, write today off and aim to have a productive day tomorrow (get a good sleep, plenty off water) coz otherwise you could just get more and more frustrated if you dont feel like your gettting anywhere.
hope that helps a little :) x
pukeko24 August, 2010 Have a break..have a blog on here.........great for your morale & just helps with the blaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh of giving up smoking!!!! Good Luck for assessment you know you can do it ...remember the 4 D's deep breathe...Drink...delay.....do something else!!!
We are all here for you!! One Day At A Time!!
sikashooter25 August, 2010 a lack of nicotine can lower the blood sugar levels. therefore a lack of concentration. i have had this a couple of times. I jog reasonable distances and have done so for a long time. HAMMER GEL, is the answer, give it a go it tastes gross but contains complex sugars that release slowly and give you slow but consistent energy and concentration boost. don't use simple sugars (sucrose) or dextrose (lollies) if you can help it as they have the negative effect of a sugar high followed by a crash. give hammer gel a go. i cant guarantee that it will work but it works for me and isn't as bad on your health as that energy drink crap LOL
1Lyn125 August, 2010 Try going for fast walk in morning for at least 30 minutes before even looking at studying. Helps concentration levels.
Poppy25 August, 2010 Thanks everyone. you have all been so helpful. got up this morning and went for a walk. i feel good. Im looking at buying a wii fit for exercise they are great.
Had stupid smoking dreams last night lol, I dreamt i was hiding from hubby smoking, I would never do this as you would only be cheating yourself lol, quite bizarre !!
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pukeko22 August, 2010 OOOOHHHHH Poppy I so know that feeling...... yes you do feel like you are losing the plot..I too am taking pills I am trying magnesium!!
I am sure this is all part of the process of fighting the demon .
Have a read of this sitehttp://whyquit.com/joel/ntap.pdf
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mandykoo20 August, 2010 Very normal, Poppy. The first month was pretty hard for me - angerwise and sadness wise.
I've had stretches of being totally on top of things, but here I am on Day 98 and everything's making me so sad - feel an inch away from crying myself.
In the past, when sadness of the world invaded my mind, I would distract myself by having a cigarette outside which worked as good "occupational therapy".
I suppose after having relied on fags for all those years we have to develop new ways of coping with painful feelings, anger and sadness.
All I can say is you are surrounded by others who know what you are going through. I am supposed to be working and am working, but I keep distracting my horrible thoughts by coming in here to give myself a fellow quitter blog support fix - that seems to help me ...
Marie20 August, 2010 All those tears I cried I felt was my body going thru a greiving process and I just let them come and told hubbie I was greiving for a fag! He laughed and poured me another wine to cheer me up !! Some help!!!
mandykoo20 August, 2010 Marie, I'm grieving alcohol too. I used to love my after work glass of wine (or three) but now I can't drink either cos the moment I've had a few sips the craving for a cigarette becomes unmanageable. I've tried a few times and each time I've come so close to asking my husband to drive to the dairy to get me a packet of cigarettes and I've ended up miserable ...
I so envy people who can still drink because I think if I could still do that, I'd be a happier person ... at least something would still be normal in my life. LOL
Poppy20 August, 2010 Thanks guys
I have had a really sore head for the last week. If feels like its going to split open. I cant wait till the crying goes away. My husband doesnt seem to understand, and keeps on saying he will go stay with a friend for awhile, problem is i want him here.
Tiwi20 August, 2010 ...christ, I thought I was going through 'manopause' for a while there luv, trust me, you'll get over it.
In the mean time, treat y'self babes, you deserve it and don't let anyone tell you different, K?
Poppy24 August, 2010 Thanks Tiwi
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Hahahaha did it help ??!! You are a poet ..awesome poppy to not take a puff!!! One Day At A Time xx...You can so do this !!
LMAO!!!! LOVE IT!!!! Not the smoke the poem lol Stay strong!!!! you got this!!!!
WOW Poppy - Day 80! You have come SOOO far! Kia Kaha! Must be something around the 80s between you, Tiwi and I... I haven't gone there... but am getting that missing feeling... Oh is it close enough to 3 months - could be the 3 day, 3 week, 3 mth thing... maybe :o )