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31May2017 By BillabongJon  |  Permalink  |  Report Support me - Follow my blogs

Stats Update: 28 days smokefree

Smokefree days: 28 days
Cigarettes NOT smoked: 560
Total savings: $630.00

Profile image BillabongJon31 May, 2017

Happy smokefree day everyone!

Profile image Nana2231 May, 2017

Great going BJ. Be very proud.

Profile image Blondene31 May, 2017

awesome stuff well done!😊πŸ’ͺ

Profile image smokefreemep31 May, 2017

Going great BJ nice to see you πŸ–’

Profile image Janet G31 May, 2017

Yay Jon πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ‘ Glad to see you on this journey 😁😁😁 stay strong πŸ’ͺ πŸ’ͺ and remember NOPE. Not One Puff Ever. Ever, Ever, Ever!!!!

Profile image Ladylene31 May, 2017

Awesome work BJ ... that first month is the hardest and you have mastered it. Well done you! Keep going .. the days add up so fast! :)

Profile image nanaturtle31 May, 2017

πŸ‘no need for my words, You know how I feel.
Proud of You πŸ˜‰πŸŒŸ
ODAAT NOPE πŸ”†

28May2017 By BillabongJon  |  Permalink  |  Report Support me - Follow my blogs

Stats Update: 25 days smokefree

Smokefree days: 25 days
Cigarettes NOT smoked: 500
Total savings: $562.50

I love my stats it's all in the bank so I am thrilled to bits. The best decision I've made for myself in a long time.

Profile image sez12328 May, 2017

I love my stats too well done to you! Mine has been spent as fast as it has been saved

Profile image Blondene28 May, 2017

congrats...you deserve this freedom from ciggys...it feels good doesn't it!😊πŸ’ͺ

Profile image Nana2228 May, 2017

Great job BJ. I am thrilled for you! Must be about time to reward yourself with a little of those savings!
Keep up the great work.

Profile image sammy jo28 May, 2017

wonderful keep up the good work.

Profile image BillabongJon28 May, 2017

Feels really good and I have been thinking reward but I still have a ton of debt to bring down I have to be responsible for by disciplining myself. Thanks everyone.

Profile image nanaturtle28 May, 2017

A carton of milk & pack Griffins choc chip πŸͺ biscuits, treat enough for me πŸ˜‰
Top job BJ-saving more than Money!
Well done πŸ‘
Stay strong πŸ˜ƒ

Profile image smokefreemep29 May, 2017

Bloody awesome BJ.. im so happy for you xx

24May2017 By BillabongJon  |  Permalink  |  Report Support me - Follow my blogs

Update: 21 days smokefreedom

Smokefree days: 21 days
Cigarettes NOT smoked: 420
Total savings: $472.50

So good to be free, I have put on 3kgs. So I am beginning a training regimen. I never knew how sore it would be after nicotine pain reliever in the morning but the exercise workouts have slowly been helping. Hard work especially with the diet but it pays off and I have lots more money time and energy now. Always stick with it people and never give up on yourself!

Profile image nanaturtle25 May, 2017

πŸ‘ Good job 🌟

Profile image GTMI25 May, 2017

3weeks is fantastic, keep it up πŸ‘

Profile image Julia C25 May, 2017

3 weeks means you've broken the back of it congratulations. Let's hope the exercise helps with the weight and more.

Profile image sez12325 May, 2017

You've done well! I need that exercise regime too 5 kilos rounder since quitting.

10May2017 By BillabongJon  |  Permalink  |  Report Support me - Follow my blogs

Stats Update: 7 days smokefree

Smokefree days: 7 days
Cigarettes NOT smoked: 140
Total savings: $157.50

Been advocating vaping to the family but boy were their smokes tempting. I just thought as tempting as they were I would smell and ruin my healthy living at the moment. I have no plans to buy any more vape it was just for the week I needed a break from smoking to believe that I could stop using longer than the three day record I had.
Cold turkey now so no looking back. Just took me some deep breaths of clean air after I quit vaping to beat any craves. I really liked the vape and flavors but I wasn't looking for a new habit just a quit smoking aid to rescue me and now my lungs feel so clean and no pains anymore.

Profile image Lisajane10 May, 2017

nice one - go you

Profile image Leisaclare10 May, 2017

Ive done 17 days cold turkey, had issues to deal with but still keeping on. You can do it. Yep dealing with it aint easy but hey I was a smoker for 20 plus years. I will take a awhile but stay strong and dont let it beat you. I will try and try and try. Never give in.

Profile image nana g10 May, 2017

128 days cold turkey for me, I was a smoker for 45 years lol. I'm still glad I went cold turkey. Keep up the good work, you can do it.

Profile image Nana2210 May, 2017

Good for you BJ! Congrats on your first week smokefree! It doesn't matter how you do it - it only matters that you do.
Stay staunch now mate. One day at a time. Eyes fixed firmly on the smokefree prize.

Profile image GTMI10 May, 2017

1 Week is Brilliant 😊

Profile image Sammyy10 May, 2017

Well done a whole week smokefree! Great you've broken out of that few day relapsing cycle. Hope you're feeling proud and more confident. You know you can do this! Keep it up 🌟🌟🌟

Profile image nanaturtle10 May, 2017

See this Smile? It goes from
here β¬…β¬…β¬…β¬…β¬…βž‘βž‘βž‘βž‘βž‘to here!
So Proud of You!!
Made my day πŸ‘πŸ˜ƒπŸŒŸ

Profile image Poowees11 May, 2017

Well done for making it this far, especially when you are surrounded by other smokers!
That makes it even more challenging! But wow, look at the amount of money you have saved in just one week! It's crazy to think how much money we all have frittered away on these nasty things that ruin our health! Keep up the good work, you can do this and if you ever need support you know where to come!

Profile image Julia C11 May, 2017

They are tempting but don't go there. Stay strong, you'll thank yourself in the end.

Profile image nanaturtle14 May, 2017

ODAAT BJ: You CAN believe in Yourself.
You own Your destiny πŸ˜ƒ
Stay Strong πŸ‘ πŸ˜ƒ

6May2017 By BillabongJon  |  Permalink  |  Report Support me - Follow my blogs

Stats Update: 3 days smokefree

Smokefree days: 3 days
Cigarettes NOT smoked: 30
Total savings: $45.00

Okay I know I have played this record before like 13 times cold turkey since February and now sixth may 6:56pm I am circling the galaxy far far away from the vapour barrier my new addiction. Thinking a vape is so much better for me than tobacco eh?
I could go get some new coil elements $5 each much cheaper than a new tank.
Much cheaper than cigarettes.
Much cheaper than cold turkey bcos that makes you eat much more than usual especially after M.K.R. or driving past B.K. and get BJ macdonalds in a truck load of KFC...
How bout that canes try amazing.
I will get to the stage I stop buying vape cos I only got thirty bucks in the bank. So I'm give it all away and the monkey on my back.
Sunny day tomorrow so I am having a few beers to deal with my last remaining grand parents passing.
Today every one was very kind and understanding I like to thank them all.
God rest her soul her journey is complete. πŸŒΈπŸŒΌπŸŒΈπŸŒ»πŸ€πŸŒΌπŸŒΊπŸŒΈπŸŒΌπŸŒΉπŸ€πŸŒΉπŸŒΌπŸŒΈ

Profile image Sammyy6 May, 2017

I'm sorry I missed that on your last blog... I'm very sorry that you have lost your gran I bet she was one very special lady. Sending you hugs and strength πŸ’•πŸŒΉπŸŒŸ

Profile image smokefreemep6 May, 2017

Omgosh BJ im so sorry to hear.. sorry about your loss. Sending you lots of love πŸ’•πŸ’ž

Profile image donosti6 May, 2017

rest in peace grannie, forever in your heart. Take it easy

Profile image nanaturtle7 May, 2017

Be at Peace (((BJ))) πŸ’•
Stay strong πŸ˜ƒ

Profile image nanaturtle8 May, 2017

Silent 😢 support for You today πŸ’•

6May2017 By BillabongJon  |  Permalink  |  Report Support me - Follow my blogs

Do I reset my stats ?

My old man gave me a cigarette last night well I was thinking what am I do with that, shall I sell it for $5 like the last cigi , go and buy a milk for my coffee and vape hehe. I am so loving the vape which is still going after 3 days and my body has been starving for tobacco for three days. Happy Saturday Sabbath day it's been puffed up this morning with coffees but I don't feel I should count it as a relapse reset? I was doing so well. I've got to set a stern defensive wall against Tobacco eh?

Profile image smokefreemep6 May, 2017

Morning BJ its totally up to you and nothing to do with us, we are here to support whatever decision you make. Im really proud of you, you still are doing well.. you just keep trying cos I know you will get to the pkace you strive to be in.. I believe you can do this. Have a nice day πŸ’•

Profile image Maanu6 May, 2017

It depends if uou have really learnt your lesson. Nicotine is an insidious addiction. The trouble is if you slip up once it makes it easier to slip up again. Thats why everyone chants the N.O.P.E. mantra. Zero yolerance is the only way to stay safe and you really have to make a change in your brain to stick to it. I really hope it was a one off. Dont do it sgain and you will be fine.

Profile image nanaturtle6 May, 2017

Do You?
What do You think?
Did you ask for it?
Was it offered to You?
You know what NOPE means...
Maanu is giving great advice again...
Brain check time
Stay strong πŸ˜ƒ

Profile image BillabongJon6 May, 2017

Yeah he just offered because we always shared smokes but I didn't tell him I quit which I should have so I wouldn't be tempted this morning which hasn't been good as my gran passed this morning. :(

Profile image nanaturtle6 May, 2017

((((mean hugs for You BJ))))
You should share buddy -you know, accountability and all that stuff.
If You can maintain Your resolve (not necessarily the Quit, but Your firm desire) thru this, You can do Anything.
Sending Strength vibes BJ- NOPE works
Stay strong πŸ’•πŸ’ take care πŸ˜ƒ

Profile image Sammyy6 May, 2017

I think you'll get to that point where you know you have to be really firm with yourself and won't even hesitate to say NO to an offered cig. Start telling people. Tell people you are quitting. I did it from day one whereas previously I'd kept my attempts from people and quit in secret so I wouldn't have to admit to them when I failed. See the mindset? I'd already decided I was going to fail. If you stand strong and tall tell yourself and others firmly that you are not going to smoke anymore, it will make a real difference and you'll find people won't offer you cigs. Well maybe one or two will. But you will tell them NO. Reducing temptation and access to cigs will really help. If they're not readily available it will be easier not to smoke. Keep going with your vape. It's up to you whether you reset your stats. Supporting you 🌟

4May2017 By BillabongJon  |  Permalink  |  Report Support me - Follow my blogs

Stats Update: 1 days smokefree

I see on my ejuice box that it is synthetic nicotine from non tobacco products.

Earlier this morning I had stomach cramps and diarrhoea. Is that normal coming off tobacco?

Have a great time in India bird maan!

Thanks again everyone

Smokefree days: 1 days
Cigarettes NOT smoked: 10
Total savings: $22.50

Profile image sez1234 May, 2017

Is the vape working well for you BJ? Couldn't tell by this post.

Profile image Pop's4 May, 2017

Stomach cramps & Diarrhoea are not usually a result of Nicotine withdrawal

I would suggest that the synthetic Nicotine is what is causing it.

How ironic. Nicotine is a natural product.

I have been on this site for nearly 5 years. It is my experience that the most successful way to give up smoking is what i did. "Cold Turkey" .

Profile image nanaturtle4 May, 2017

I'm out on a limb here
BJ-first up, personally don't agree that Vaping is good for anyone, in any shape or form.
In saying that, I wish to come to Your defence.
Most Quitters here, either trying or completed, have a personal time-frame, in which to gather 'their' armour-mind-set. Many have taken Years+ multiple attempts to reach just that point.
It is of no help when 'do good Cold turkey quitters' rub it in.
When we say it 'can be done'- it CAN be.
We just have to work our own way to finding out How, please Support that.
No-one ever said this was Easy BJ
But it is totally worth it, no succesful Quitter will deny that
Stay focused BJ
Still supporting πŸ˜ƒ

Profile image BillabongJon4 May, 2017

Hey people, I'm smokefree and that's all that matters to me because I love a good flavor smoke. But I just can't afford them. Look I just saved 80 bucks for food, I get to eat this week hooray!

Profile image BillabongJon4 May, 2017

Oh and I am going cold turkey because vape is only for an emergency it's come a long way since 2003 when they were invented. People have done studies on it and it's found to be a lesser evil than tobacco.

Profile image Sammyy4 May, 2017

However it's done, quitting smoking is quitting smoking. I don't feel you need to justify having a vape. My partner went cold turkey for nearly six months, relapsed and now is happy using a vape. I am incredibly proud of him and absolutely consider him to be a non smoker. You do what you need to do. You have my support 😊

Profile image Maanu4 May, 2017

Stomach cramps and diarrhea are not common symptoms of quitting but they are a side effect of aspartame which is in the nicotine gum.

Thanks for the shout out. Was it the diarrhea that made you think of my trip to India? I'm going to Thailand first for one month starting may 23 and going to India June 22

Profile image SmokingBandit4 May, 2017

The last couple of times I have tried to quit I have had severe stomach cramps. I went to my GP and he said it's from nicotine withdrawal. The more we smoke , the more nicotinic receptors we create as they are stimulated by smoking, when we quit cold turkey they no longer are stimulated and cause all sorts of issues, this usually subsides around 6 weeks. He prescribed my zyban which has made it go away completely and helps you quit. Hopen that helps! I just remember finding very little info on these symptoms when I had them. Good luck :)

Profile image BillabongJon4 May, 2017

@maanu: I may of subconsciously thought Delhi belly but more your blog said they have vape there and I could feel the excitement of that and all the hot women in Indian harems and hookah pipes, yeah you can tell I watch too many Bollywood movies.

@smokeybandit: cheers for that, my symptoms have all subsided now but good to know.

@sammyy: thank you for supporting yeah it's just nice knowing I have something to stop me picking up a cigarette and it didn't break the bank.

@everyone: cheers for the suggestions to do it cold I am already half a day free from vape. Already noticing a difference in health as well. The strong nicotine allows me to just take a few puffs and put it down. My ultimate goal was to be completely free from expense and now a goal to be fit. Cheers.

Profile image PSPSP4 May, 2017

Billabong I gave you my feedback the other night and to your credit you said thanks. I respect that and I respect the fact that you are not smoking cigarettes. Well done you.

nanaturtle I am going to go out on a limb as well-not yours. I thought your comment about "do good cold turkey" quitters was not very nice.

Were you having a go at Pops? Or other quitters who went cold turkey? Incidentally I am one. Pops was only saying what worked for him and I do not think he or others are trying to rub it in (to use your words). Again a comment that I personally was uncomfortable with.

There are a lot of quitters who use NRT or vape-and good for them. Whatever works for you in quitting is good.

Profile image nanaturtle4 May, 2017

I remain committed to this site for a sole reason-to support those who are trying to Quit smoking. If my comment created an awareness, then it has served it's purpose.
I most definitely was Not 'having a go' at Pops, too much respect of Him, for that. If I felt the need, it would have been on his personal blog.
Us long termers must remain mindful of how it was when we 'took the Leap'
BJ, don't let this banter get in the way of Your Quit,
Whatever works for you in quitting IS Good
Stay Strong πŸ˜ƒ
ODAATπŸ‘

Profile image BillabongJon5 May, 2017

Thanks guys, I respect all you long-term quitters and those of you who may have used nrt or zyban etc initially but are cold turkey now. I'm thinking in terms of long term that since cold turkey does work and I was cold turkey from a lot of drugs and going well for a few months til the incredible aches and pains I got waking up. So I endeavour to be completely clean without aids in the long term like many others. Thanks for your fellas input and especially your ongoing support and understanding NanaT.

Profile image nanaturtle5 May, 2017

You got this πŸ‘
Stay strong 🌟
ODAAT πŸ˜ƒ

3May2017 By BillabongJon  |  Permalink  |  Report Support me - Follow my blogs

5 hours smokefree

Well I am going well with out buying a pack eh the lady at the shosha shop said "no don't do that" and gave me a fully charged 'RTV' (Ready To Vape) shosha pipe and sweet for the week. Be about $58 all up to get me going then I will only need pay $24 a week but let's hope I don't buy the whole shop next time? HHHah!!!

Profile image Blondene3 May, 2017

you can vape...just whatever you do don't smoke this time round!!πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ

Profile image Sammyy3 May, 2017

That's great. I hope it works well for you. Let us know how you get on with it ☺

Profile image turtle3 May, 2017

That is better than smoking all thoses chemicals, what ever gets you through. Well done!!

Profile image Leisaclare3 May, 2017

NOPE not one puff ever. You dont need the vape. You can do this cold turkey. You wont die from not vaping or smoking. so it aint that bad to not have anything. Give a go and try it out.

Profile image BillabongJon3 May, 2017

Ok I have not had anything in a while since I recharged it and I was dancing around the lounge at the club feeling jubilous that I didn't need a thing so I can remain clean til the morning coffee timez. Let's see how I do this cold turkey, will update in the morning. Have a good night.

Profile image BillabongJon3 May, 2017

I like how there's a safety button to stop the kids and conserve battery. Pretty cool feature. My cuzzie's kid just won game of bro's

2May2017 By BillabongJon  |  Permalink  |  Report Support me - Follow my blogs

Lost the plot

Well this morning I couldn't get the demon out my head and went and bought smokes and beer. Just can't beat it so I've decided to go buy a vape tomorrow so I can at least not smell bad. If someone can advise me on some places to get decent quality for affordable price? I am thinking of going manix at that shosha place I saw online. I'll at least check it out. It's funny cos I never saw it there and I been there heaps. Gonna spend the same as do in smokes 140 bux a week.
What everyone thinks about this cunning plan of mine? Love some feedback.

Profile image Sammyy2 May, 2017

I think it's a great idea. My girlfriend and her husband have been really struggling to quit and they have been quitting and relapsing hard out for two years now. They had a try of my man's vape and thought it was great. They've bought one and now on their 3rd day smokefree. I know it's not for everyone but in my opinion is far better than smoking. My partner got his from the tobacconist he has two one was about 90 and the other 130

Profile image BillabongJon2 May, 2017

Thanks Sam, I just found the website and they have some really cheap stuff that looks the business. $5 for a atomisor tank and $7 for eliquid. Then I will ask for a couple batteries a charger and I should be away. Can't wait.

Profile image PSPSP2 May, 2017

When you ask for feedback BillabongJon are you asking for honest or sycophantic feedback? Let run with the former rather than the latter.

I think your plan is rubbish. There is no demon-it is an addiction and the sooner you accept that and take responsibility for your quit, the sooner you will have a successful quit. I have read some of your blogs and it seems to me that you have not taken responsibility for your addiction and your oft proclaimed desire to quit.

The reality is simple. Do not smoke. And speaking as a committed smoker (but now 5 years smoke free going cold turkey) I can tell you the reality is that simple. Hard but simple. Don't smoke, don't vape. Simple. If you really want to quit.

You probably won't like this but you did ask for feedback. And that is mine.

Profile image BillabongJon2 May, 2017

There is a demon alright but I know I am to blame for being weak so I am going to try vape for now and then quit that like maanu and blondene. Thanks for your feedback.

Profile image Maanu2 May, 2017

Going cold turkey without any NRT is definitely the best way but for some that is easier said than done. Using an e-cig is definitely better than smoking. It's a tenth of the cost and far less toxic chemicals. You will still be an addict but it helps to break free of smoking and prepare for being nicotine free.

Quitting the vape can be difficult. If I had to do it again I think I would have a few bits of gum To Help break free of the e-cig. Quitting the vape is definitely easier than quitting smokes or it could be because I've been trying to quit for so long I've gotten the knack at long last

Profile image nanaturtle3 May, 2017

Feedback, cunning plan-this blog saddens my heart BJ.
Keep your focus - use this vape system ONLY as a means to an end.
It is suggested when we embark on anything there should be a start date, end date& a checkup date in between.
Maanu has offered You a warning-Hear it BJ
You ARE Stronger than You know...
Keep us posted, Still supporting πŸ˜ƒ
Stay strong BJ ✌

Profile image Leisaclare3 May, 2017

My first thought was to blast you for giving in. Coz the reality of the demon got you. But I want to say, keep trying and trying until eventually your body will release that demon. Stay strong and natural I ain't going to offer any advice about vape.

Profile image clarebear3 May, 2017

Worth a try I reckon. All the best.

Profile image Blondene3 May, 2017

my quit hasn't always been with a vape...I intially quit on lozenges and gym...I went over 6months without the eciggy...personally I would say I shouldn't of picked up the vape after not having any nicotine....quitting the vape is like quitting smoking!!!

Profile image Blondene3 May, 2017

gum...

Profile image Pippy:)3 May, 2017

Have you tried champix, kicked my demons butt

Profile image Ponytail3 May, 2017

hey BJ, I am recently quit - just over a month now. It feels great, but we all know the struggle, and we all quit in different ways. There is no "one size fits all".
When I quit, I left a pack of cigarettes in my drawer, not really "just in case", but to prove to myself that I could be smokefree and not give in and have a sneaky cigarette. A couple of people here "told me off" and I got quite defensive and brassed off to be honest. They were right - I threw them out, no problem, I was already past the 24 hour mark and was soooo ready to stop.
Hey, the honest truth is, take it from an ex-smoker of a very long time and who has given up many times for varying amounts of time... one week, one month, two years, five years.....the only way to stop BJ, is to stop. Not growling, just being an honest mate.

1May2017 By BillabongJon  |  Permalink  |  Report Support me - Follow my blogs

Another go

So many restarts today. I've had 7 fags today. So many reasons why I keep slipping and compared with my reasons to quit that don't matter when I'm starving for one.
I feel so terrible when I let myself down and I then go round and round the smoking merry go round.
I have no answer for why none of my tactics work? Maybe because the demon lives in my head and can stay two steps ahead of me.
I been changing in and out of my smoking clothes as I don't want to smelly up my fresh and expensive dry-cleaned clothes plus I can't take the smell ironically.
I've learned so much from all the quitters blogs around the world and read quite a bit but I'm no expert obviously. Just hard to pin down the right method when cravings hit. NRT is not working for me any more so I am basically still cutting down and trying cold turkey each time. Wish I could do better than a few hours or a few days yet the eternal internalisation just zaps me with hopelessness, still I know I have got to quit and do it asap.

Profile image cqnz1 May, 2017

I admire you working hard to find what works for you.. It will happen.. Keep up the determination πŸ‘Š

Profile image Kiwi_in_Spain2 May, 2017

keep trying !! Never give up !! I just went 11 days without and them boom - just had 2 now .... feeling rather guilty and while the sensation was good to begin with, the smoke did feel very strange in my newly clean throat ... I hope that's enough to put me off once and for all!

Profile image nanaturtle2 May, 2017

Nana hugs (((BJ)))
Remember, it is NOT You demanding that damn stick!!!
It's this Confounded πŸ˜– addiction.
See how I never Cap letter the words that need burying-they hold no importance
nicodemon is just that-needs burying& holds no importance.
If cutting down helps, in what ever form, then You do that. It is something You have Control over, maybe do that for a while.
I give You Credence BJ- You get batted down& get back up again& keep trying-Top Job!
Take a deep Breath, a step back & allow Yourself some space.
Regather& when the time is right-I'll be here to help You SMASH this Sucker!
Time to stop beating Yourself up,
remember -it's not You OK
Im off to Maccas for breaky-that's My demon
Have a good day-Quit buddy πŸ˜‰

Profile image Sammyy2 May, 2017

Hi I think you're doing really well to keep persevering with your quitting. I had so many day ones and relapses and I could never pick myself up straight away and keep going. I couldn't get past this idea that I simply could not give up smoking. The more I relapsed and failed before the end of day 1 the more hopeless I felt. The mental aspect of quitting is very hard. I really believe you can do it. You clearly want it! Push yourself through this first bit. Focus on getting to the end of the first day. Do the same on day 2 and 3. One day at a time really works. No access to cigarettes! Then you have to work harder to get them if there's none in the house or car then you have to go and buy them. By the time you get to the shop the craving should have passed. Dig deep and find a little faith in yourself, use it and it will grow. We have faith in you and are here to support. You can do this 🌟🌟🌟

Profile image Ponytail2 May, 2017

yip BJ, been on that roundabout many times as well and now I am one month smoke free. It is terribly hard to stop. Don't beat yourself up. The day will come!
What helped for me was really just trying to get to 24 hours smoke free. Break it down, even to half a day and then the first 24 hours. I felt a great sense of achievement when I reached that goal. I thought - hey, I have come this far and got over that magic one day mark. Also, I cut down gradually - never been a big smoker on this last bout, probably around 5-6 a day or 7-8 on a bad day. I cut down to 2 or 1 and then bingo, I actually got sick and then they tasted absolutely awful awful awful, so my body had had enough.
Good luck !!